Dad: (asking Orvik) If you believe in Jesus, what will happen to you?
Orvik: If we believe in Jesus, we will have internal life.
Dad: Internal life? What do you mean?
Orvik: Internal life - it means you will live forever.
Dad: Oh, you mean "eternal" life?
Orvik: Yes, it is a gift from God. But if you do not believe, do you know what you'll get?
Dad: What?
Orvik: "Infernal" life. You will be with demons.